If nobody believed in superstition it would be unable to hurt anyone

 

Expert Medical Declarations on visions and miracles of the sun - the moral is Do Not Look at the Sun!

 

People need to stare at the sun if they want to see a miraculous sun dance or visions around and in the sun. At places like Medjugorje they are told to stare. People stared at the sun at Fatima too.

If more people tried that trick somewhere else the same “visions” would be seen. Looking at the sun long enough triggers the Entoptic Phenomenon. This is caused by the eye being harmed by the excessive light and so colour changes will happen, floaters will appear, and you can even see the blood vessels in the backs of your own eyes as the light creates a mirror effect. The iris muscle flexes and dilates with the stress which causes a bouncy effect. The sun can seem to jump around. Imagination will also have a role to play in the excitement and the physical stress caused to your eyes.

People think the iris gets tiny in bright light. It does but as it de-stresses during the great light it starts to adapt and then it will widen again. That explains the “miracle” of people having fairly dilated pupils in the sun. This is referred to as pupillary play.

Dark spots are reported by people who look at the sun at holy places and that could be a burn on the retina. People at Medjugorje are told the round dark spot appearing in the sun is the host appearing over the sun!! That is no vision but merely the Troxler effect.

Any damage done by looking at the sun is incurable.

 

From: The Evidence for Visions of the Virgin Mary,
Kevin McClure, Aquarian Books, Northamptonshire, 1983
 
"Nothing about Fatima has turned out to be in the least bit simple or straightforward at all. Indeed, I have never seen such a collection of contradictory accounts of a case in any of the research I have done in the past ten years. Part of the problem is that very little was written about Fatima before the end of the Second World War, and most of the Catholic commentaries seem to date from after 1950. Thirty year later is not an ideal time to start writing about any event. Also, much of the original material, published at the same time as the visions, has become confused with the content of Lucia Santos' memoirs, which were only published in 1942" (page 72).
 
"It is difficult to find any two accounts of the visions of May and June 1917 that agree in detail" (page 73).

"With the fifth apparition, on 13 September 1917... there are UFO-type phenomena witnessed by others besides the children, and ... there is the vision of the Virgin. Many of those present saw nothing at all..." (page 76).

"There are many factors that prevent us drawing the simple conclusion that a divinely-inspired miracle took place. Firstly, there were many representatives of the press present at the Cova, both journalists and photographers. There are many photographs of the crowd witnessing the vision; but in spite of the presence of cameras there is no photograph of the event that is even vaguely authentic; the one usually presented is actually of a solar eclipse in another part of the world, taken some time before 1917. What were the photographers doing? How could anyone miss a scoop like that? Secondly, it is clear that only a proportion of the crowd, probably less than half, actually witnessed the miracle. There is some evidence to the effect that only those who were standing in a broad band across the centre of the Cova saw the vision; but the truth of this is now impossible to establish. Thirdly, the accounts of the miracle, of the 'dance of the sun,' are simply not consistent" (page 78).
 
"These contradictions must raise some doubts as to the objective nature of what was seen" (page 79).

"On the whole I have been disappointed to find that there is less to most of the visions than originally seemed to be the case. In the seven major speaking visions... we have a total of only nineteen witnesses telling us about the actual visions. All of them are children, most of them barely literate, and having very little experience in life. The contemporary investigation was often shabby and incomplete, and the recording of the witnesses' own accounts often took place far too long after the events for accuracy... Consequently, while I am prepared to accept that most of the visions were genuine for the visionaries, I am not convinced that any external force, entity or intelligence had a part in any of the reported visions... what emerges from the stories of the visions may be a contact with some sort of externalized form established by belief or hope over the years, and perceived by those who were prepared for it, who were in the right frame of mind" (pages 150-151).
 
Kevin McClure states it so well -
 
"there are many factors that prevent us drawing the simple conclusion that a divinely-inspired miracle took place. Firstly, there were many representatives of the press present at the Cova, both journalists and photographers. There are many photographs of the crowd witnessing the vision; but in spite of the presence of cameras there is no photograph of the event that is even vaguely authentic... What were the photographers doing? How could anyone miss a scoop like that? Secondly, it is clear that only a proportion of the crowd, probably less than half, actually witnessed the miracle... Thirdly, the accounts of the miracle, of the 'dance of the sun,' are simply not consistent... these contradictions must raise some doubts as to the objective nature of what was seen." (Pg. 78-79, The Evidence for Visions of the Virgin Mary, Kevin McClure, Aquarian Press, Wellingborough, Northamptonshire, 1985).

 

APPENDIX: QUOTATIONS FROM THE BOOK WHEN THE SUN DANCED

 

My comments in red.

 

Of Lucia he writes Her second memoir includes a detailed account of another set of three visions allegedly witnessed by Lucia and her cousins, Jacinta and Francisco Marto, in 1916. This time the guardian angel of Portugal appeared to the children. At least one author claims that this story was communicated to a few priests early on, all of whom encouraged Lucia to keep it quiet, thus resulting in the story of the visitations of the angel not being made public until after 1937 (Sainte Trinite 1989b). However, neither Jacinta nor Francisco ever spoke of these incidents during their lifetime, and because the episodes were relegated to the province of private experience until the late 1930s, I have chosen to exclude them from the present study.

 

She took advantage of her role as only surviving witness to embellish her tale

There are several differences between Lucia's testimony in this interrogation and her firsthand reports of the event, written more than twenty years later. First, in her testimony to the priest, it was Lucia who initiated the conversation with the Lady. Second, there was no mention of her deceased acquaintances during the interrogation (both of whom were friends of her older sisters), nor was there any mention of the children making a vow to endure much suffering to serve God.

She contradicts herself


After questioning the children, Father Ferreira proclaimed, “It doesn't seem to me like a revelation from heaven, it may be a deception of the devil” (Walsh 1954, 75).

 

Surely he was in a position to know especially before the hype about Fatima brainwashed everybody

Lucia then said she told the Lady that she had a request: Could the Lady please convert a woman from Pedrogam a woman from Fátima, and make a boy from Moito better?  The Lady responded that the conversions and improvement could take place within a year. Lucia later claimed that the request for the woman from Fátima was actually for a cure, not a conversion, and the request was made by Maria Rosa Brogueira, whose twenty-one-year-old daughter Amélia dos Anjos had recently contracted tuberculosis. The boy was João Carreira, whose mother Maria Carreira had been present during the second apparition.

 

No evidence is given that these things happened and the Church never recognised those miracles as real.  That is tantamount to being sceptical of what the vision said.

Lucia later wrote, “The vision of hell filled her [Jacinta] with horror to such a degree, that every penance and mortification was nothing in her eyes."

 

The virgin is a child abuser

If the Lady does not make the miracle, the crowd will kill us.…We had better go to confession, to be prepared for death” (Walsh 1954, 135).

 

There was pressure then on everybody to lie about seeing the miracle of the sun spinning in the sky

We do not know if there have already been blind persons who have recovered their sight, paralytics who have regained the use of their limbs, hardened sinners who are turned back from the straight ways of sin to plunge into the purifying water of penance.

Lucia and several other shepherdesses from the village of Aljustrel had claimed to have witnessed an apparition of the Holy Lady on three separate occasions in 1915, making the 1917 reports initially appear as a repetition of a previously dismissed event rather than a novel occurrence.

So the Fatima visions of Mary had a trial run.

Lucia eventually admitted to Dr. Formigão, there were many things about the visions that the children chose to keep to themselves, not trusting even their confessors or their families with the full details of their experiences.

 

And Jesus said he said nothing in secret so why all this secrecy?

The fact remains that almost none of the people who really knew Lucia Santos believed what was quickly deemed to be her story. From the start, it was established that Lucia was the central protagonist in the apparition drama.

 

This is telling - and in such a superstitious age!  What did they know?

heightened anxiety, especially when tied to crowd participation, renders actors vulnerable to what Giddens (1979, 127) has termed “regressive modes of object-affiliation.” This was evinced in the way the crowd seemed to respond to Lucia's commands to put down the umbrellas and look up at the sun. It is also suggested by the panic that ensued when the miracle actually occurred. Moreover, for many the event seems to have possessed a dreamlike quality

 

The crowd were worked up to see the sun spinning in the sky and the umbrellas was a clear hint that the miracle was to appear there. Where else could it appear anyway?  The dreamlike quality description shows this was not a real miracle.

there was no water at the Cova da Iria, and this was a real problem, as Maria Carreira's account makes clear. The lack of water posed sanitation and health risks when large crowds (often of very sick people) gathered at the apparition site.

 

As with Lourdes, the public were expected to risk their health over visions that had not been established.

In a number of places Lucia denies the truth of these claims and maintains that her father was never drunk or abusive and that he always upheld his responsibilities to the family, even if he restricted his church attendance to a few prominent holidays.

 

Liar.

in an interview with De Marchi, Maria Carreira claimed that when the time for the Virgin's visit came and the children were not present, the crowd began to panic, break, and flee. She attributed the panic to fear of the “devil.”

 

Signs of hysteria - no wonder they imagined a spinning sun


Lucia mentions that her parents cautioned and forbade her from personally accepting money from outsiders, and she was severely beaten when she suspected of doing so.

Maybe she did
 
APPENDIX: FROM RECOMMENDED BOOK
 
CELESTIAL SECRETS
 
THE HIDDEN HISTORY OF THE FATIMA INCIDENT
Anomalist Books, San Antonio, New York, 2007
  
THE MIRACLE OF THE SUN
 
In October 1917, during the vision’s last visit to Fatima she allegedly made the sun spin and exude different colours before a crowd of 70,000 people.
 
The complaint I would have to make about the book is the assumption that the miracle of the sun at Fatima was seen by 70,000 people (Foreword i). The fact is that only some of the crowd saw it and no two people saw the same thing and no proper investigation was conducted. Witnesses were not cross-examined. Very few reports from witnesses exist. Some reports about a silver disk where the sun was would suggest that a spaceship was appearing. Some said the sun seemed to be falling down and panicked so if they had been many in number there would have been a stampede. If it was a spaceship why didn’t everybody see it? But alien encounters and even alien abduction stories are full of similar problems. Not everybody is able to see the spaceships. The silver disc couldn’t possibly have any religious significance. It is a sign from aliens if anything.
 
Lucia had shouted at the crowd to look at the sun and later she said she didn’t remember doing so and there is evidence documented in the book of amnesia. Something was playing games with her brain. How can we trust her visions when we cannot trust her memory? The amnesia sounds like that reported in most apparitions involving aliens.
 
Curiously the book omits the fact that UFO’s were seen in the month preceding the solar miracle. Two priests and a child saw a glowing globe slowly moving from east to west and it vanished in a flash of light. Others who saw it said it came down to the apparition site and said it looked like an airplane. During the same occasion, the lady made petals seem to fall – this is a mark of many UFO events (page 76, 77, The Evidence for Visions of the Virgin Mary, Kevin McClure, Aquarian Books, Northamptonshire, 1983). This can be taken as confirmation that the children were not seeing Mary but having experiences akin to what people having visions of spaceships and aliens experience. McClure says that Fatima doesn’t match close encounters of the second kind in the sense that such encounters do not involve people changing colour which was reported by some who looked at the sun during the Miracle. These people still looked at something bright which could have tricked their eyes and besides most of those seeing the miracle didn’t speak of this colour changing.
 
Afonso Lopes Vieira and a group many kilometres away from Fatima saw something like a revolving globe of snow over Fatima that day (page 76, The Book of Miracles, Headline, London, 1996). Sounds like our spaceship again.
 
The vision of Gilberto Santos at Fatima in 1917 is interesting. He saw the crowd of pilgrims swathed in the darkness of night and their faces turned into sallow shapes little more than skulls and their faces were expressions of extreme torment (Celestial Secrets, page 229-230). Is this a sign from Heaven that the apparition was going to lead the people to Hell? Evangelical believers would say that Mary worshippers are in danger of Hell until they convert to faith in Christ alone. Santos didn’t take the vision to mean that but we can. Some would say that his not doing so indicates the authenticity of his vision. His is more convincing than that of the three children.
 
It is interesting that on the anniversary of the first Mary vision, May 13th, 1925 that the sun was seen at Alcacer do Sal behaving suspiciously like spaceships. Luis Antonio Carraca and his family and fifteen others saw the sun change shape and then glowing objects started to appear around it and started to turn into multicoloured lights that framed the sun (page 111, 112).
 
At Fatima in 1957, Father Anibal Coelho, the Postmaster General and others saw a UFO at Fatima. They couldn’t make out the shape of the object they saw in the sky for it moved about at great speed. It didn’t make any sound nor did it emit light. The witnesses are certain that it was not an airplane or a shooting star.

 

The Sun at Medjugorje - from an online source

 

Various sources from television, radio and newspapers reported that several people claimed to have seen or even filmed strange phenomena of the sun that would have happened during their stay in Medjugorje. Moreover, some time ago a religious showed me a video tape filmed in Medjugorje in which you could clearly see the sun actually pulsing in the sky over Medjugorje. After having seen this video I have decided to do some inquiries.

During my first travel to Medjugorje, I interviewed many local people, asking them if such phenomena of the sun were legends or real and if they had seen any of them personally. Some people did not answer to me directly, others said to me that such phenomena were real and that they had been witnesses themselves now or in the past, and that anybody can be witness of these phenomena, you just need to go in the centre square before the sunset and look.

Another person, finally, said to me that the solar phenomena still happen today in Medjugorje, but that once, at the times of first apparitions in the ‘80s, they were showier. So, the same day at 5 p. m. I went, with my video-camera, in the centre square of Medjugorje and began to look at the sun, without being able to look for more than four or five seconds because of the strong light ( I was without proper eye protection, I admit !). Personally, during that day and all the other days in which I have been in that square in order to observe (and possibly film) solar phenomena, I have not been witness of any strange behaviour of the sun.

However I have noticed that often the pilgrims remained to observe the sun for some time and claimed that strange light or optical effects were occurring (some said the sun seemed to spin, other that the sun seemed to fall towards the Earth, a tourist said that the sun was looking as if it was “ duplicating “, another tourist said she had seen the face of the Pope inside the solar circle) while to me, that was filming the sun in that moment, it seemed that the sun was not showing anything anomalous or strange. After looking at the videos, still I can not see anything anomalous or strange in the sun.
My suspicion is that, in the cases I have been able to assist, those have been phenomena of delusion.