If nobody believed in superstition it would be unable to hurt anyone
Why Prayer is Self-Righteous Selfishness
People seem to be okay with others praying for them in times of trouble.
Is prayer using the pain and vulnerability of another person for you need to feel you deserve to have your prayer answered? Yes but why do you deserve the answer? Is it because you are righteous and deserve this reward of answered prayer? Then prayer is pompous. Because you prayed? Then prayer is even more pompous. Religion teaches that God cannot even hear prayer unless you deserve to be heard so prayer is self-righteous. It is not prayer unless it comes from a righteous person with a respectful attitude to God. To ask God to help another while you are bad to people would be hypocrisy. So deserving comes into it. Some would say their prayer should be answered for they FEEL they deserve it. That is dreadfully arrogant and makes your feelings a condition on which God must help another!! What egotism!
Is prayer using the pain and vulnerability of another person for you need to feel you can have prayer answered?
Then you are worried about your feelings and not the person. The person is not your feelings so feeling you want them to be helped and for them to be helped BECAUSE you feel it is selfish.
Prayer could be one or both of those. And it is.
Prayer and the quest to feel in control
God is important to believers as the alleged being who is pure love and on your
side. If you cosy up to an entity who has great power you will feel power for
you decide to accept his decisions and make them your own as well. To feel
powerful it does not follow that you need to have vast power yourself. People
who seek absolute power are corrupt. And getting the power or thinking they have
it corrupts them more. But in reality there is no absolute power unless you have
power over reality and truth to shape them according to your will. You have no
such power so you make do with the sensation that you do have it. If you think
the God of the universe hears and answers your prayers and is still working for
you even if you seem to get no answer you hope for it being answered in a
surprise way different to what you expected. That is the crave for power at its
most extreme. It explains why religious believers are often nasty and dangerous.
If somebody is nice just because they have a sense of having absolute power that
niceness is a facade. A really good person will be good whether or not they feel
A gunman faces the couple, a young man and young woman. The young man throws himself on top of her when the gun is emptied at them and he prays that he will take the bullets and she will be okay. That seems noble doesn't it?
The decent person will want to believe that this goodness was all the man's and nobody else's. The man is the creator of his goodness.
God is not involved and should not be thought of as involved.
The man is only degrading himself and what he has done for her by praying.
Also, if he is such a big believer in God's will he is throwing himself in faith that he will get the bullets not her. He is using prayer in an attempt to change and control fate. If that is okay then why is it wrong for Islamists to blow themselves up in markets for God? It cannot be necessarily wrong. But the atheist believes it is necessarily wrong which is why the atheist should be wiser than the believer.
The person who cares about you will only give you evidence based information and urge you to learn for yourself. Cheap care for others is not care. Those who say they get support and results from prayer are selfishly counting the hits and leaving out the misses. When a woman prays that she will not hit her child next week and she hits the child she will forget that. She will see the week in which she refrains from hitting as a result. She is attributing too much significance to luck. Also, like everybody else, she will make mistakes in trying to judge what good things or bad things can happen and how and when they will happen. Do an experiment. Try to foresee all the results of some action and you will see how often you are wrong about the probabilities.
Christians say that counting hits is important. They say that if you refuse to count the hits that is no good. There is no point in counting the misses only. That is biased and unfair. That is what they do. Both hits and misses have to be looked at to see if it makes sense to think that some power helped. And many of the hits are not really hits. For example, Lucia makes a speedy recovery from flu after somebody prays for her and its amazing - until she falls down the stairs the next day and ends up crippled for life.
If you start to feel lucky with prayer that could get dangerous. People do not encourage feeling lucky. And for good reason! It leads to arrogance and wrecklessness. Even if you think luck is down to chance that can happen. If you think you are manipulating luck with prayer or magic it can happen even faster.
Believers look at miracles and dramatic and seemingly supernatural answers to prayer - eg when somebody who is dying rises from the bed healthy. They say that these things are not likely to happen. Perhaps at times they are nearly impossible. So they are improbable. But then they contradict this by saying they probably happened after all! You cannot have it two ways - it makes no sense to say that an event is too unlikely to have happened and then that it likely did happen. Believers are actually saying more than that! "Jesus probably did not rise from the dead and because that is unlikely he therefore probably did rise from the dead." That is insane. It is more extreme than saying, "Jesus probably did not rise from the dead. In spite of that, he therefore probably did rise from the dead."
Let us make a list of the other reasons why prayer is self-centred and selfish and arrogant.
#If you regard praying as mattering more than good works if there is a choice then praying is fanatical and twisted. And you must for Jesus said that prayer is an expression of a relationship with God so to love God totally means to pray totally. He commanded total love so that means total prayer.
# Human nature cannot mean it when it pretends it wants strangers and acquaintances etc to be say cancer free as much as it does your loved ones and close friend and family. In reality, if Ann is evil and Mary is good, if you could do some magic to make sure if one of them gets cancer that it is going to be Ann you would. If that attitude is not explicit in the believer it is still there. The believer does not need to be aware of it.
# Saying that you trust God above everyone and everything and that you express this by prayer sounds humble. But is it? In fact it is self-righteous arrogance posing as humility. It is a boast. And it is nothing to boast about. If there is a choice between God/prayer and doing good for others then do good for them. If there is a choice between trusting God most and trusting only God then choose the first. It is less extreme. Yet religion following Christ demands that you do the latter! Another reason the trust thing is a boast is that you don't see God and many people lack faith for they think God is not the great being people say he is. So you have every reason not to trust or to think that the trust of God is the trust of a God you have made up in your head. If you trust that is quite an amazing achievement! But do you really trust against such big odds? It is too good to be real! The trust you say you have is a boast and is arrogant.
# Nobody knows if it is really prayer that motivates good deeds, if you do good better after praying it does not prove that God is motivating you. If prayer motivates, then it is possible that prayer motivates you even if there is no God. A need for prayer need not necessarily imply a need for God though prayer pretends to call on and need God.
# Prayer is often just magical self-delusion in disguise. People like to believe that their thoughts and desires have a magical influence on reality so that if you wish for something it can come true or evil WILL come true. This lessens or takes away their fear of the future. Their notion is delusional for there are things we cannot control - we cannot control what other person thinks. We all know we cannot do it in small things so why do we think we can do it in major things? Thinking we control others and the universe leads to anger and disappointment and resentment. Thinking this is so common that many people who say they do not think it actually don't realise they think it. On balance, it is very very likely that the person who prays is trying to manipulate others.
# Superstitious behaviour is a notorious and almost universal human trait and the appeal is that people want the smug glow that comes from thinking they have helped you when they have not. Even those who detest superstition engage in it. They may feel that if they get a red car that in some unexplainable way that they will be immune to accidents. They feel that if they sit in the right seat during a football match that it influences the outcome of the match and their favoured team will win. They feel they control what they in fact do not control at all. If the team wins, they feel they have caused their win. This trait is so strong that it is reasonable to suppose that whoever is praying for you when you are sick is not that interested in helping you but wants to feel they caused you to get better. Even if prayer is not in itself magical, the fact is that most (if not all) people who pray are treating it as magic and thus abusing it.
# We tend to be grateful to things when they benefit us. We feel a sense of gratitude towards the car that gets us to hospital. We kick and curse the car and swear at it when it breaks down. We treat events and things as if they consciously bless us and curse us. It is no wonder then we so easily and too easily believe in God and pray to God. Our motivation is suspect - we are possibly idolaters nearly all the time anyway. Prayer is superstition. A person who gives you a rabbit's foot wants to feel he has helped you but without helping you. Prayer is the same thing except it can be made to look non-superstitious. If you don't want to help somebody, giving them some magical item or praying for them is the lazy way - you feel you have helped when you don't want to help them right.
# Most people enjoy prayer and get a lift from it because it expresses and dwells on their desire to be better people or to see others better off. Simply thinking about how you would like to see others happier would do the same thing. But many people pray to help. They need to take steps to make what they pray for happen. Prayer itself will not do it. People like to feel sympathy for others but they should like helping others better. Feeling sympathy for somebody does no good if you are not interested in helping. Dwelling on how you feel can and will lead to you using the feelings to tell yourself how wonderful and compassionate you are when you in fact are doing nothing that counts. You are just a goody-goody navel gazer. You are indulging yourself.
# Praying, it is said, gives us something to do when everything else fails. But you cannot really know if you have tried everything. Maybe an option you thought was out of the question was actually the best or the right answer. Nobody really uses prayer as a last resort for you would expect God to see through you.
#Prayer like religion in general thrives on arguments from ignorance. They are based on the illogical reasoning, "I don't know how this happened and came about therefore a supernatural power was behind it." It is dangerous if we take such logic seriously - believers only adopt it when it suits which shows they do not believe in it as deeply as they may pretend. Prayer violates the fact that you do not explain an unknown by invoking or inventing another unknown. People guess that such and such was caused by prayer. It is a desecration of your reason.
# Prayer motivated by evil is said to be ignored by God. People who sin and don't repent are asking God for a favour while refusing to repent so their prayer is just useless. And especially if they ask for the conversion of others. To try and fool God with prayer and expect results is magic. It would take huge magic to fool an all-seeing God. People engage in useless and hypocritical prayer and can spend ages at it and go on pilgrimages. They do this for they feel holy though they are not. And it does seem to them that even these prayers are answered. Even praying to the duck down at the park would seem to be answered at times. They must know that even what they ask for happens, it does not mean that God accepted their prayer for they were pretending to connect with him and were not. Thus we can be sure that the more selfish you are, the more you pray for the sick and those who you cannot help, the more you are trying to feel good about doing nothing. Your praying only nurtures your smug selfishness.
#We cannot know how many people use prayer as an excuse for neglecting to help. If prayer works, then excuse is not the right word. The right word is reason. It would follow that you cannot be accused of neglect when you let your seriously ill child do without a doctor on the basis that you are praying for her. And what if she dies? But one thing is for sure, few people are strongly committed to improving society so clearly they are using prayer, if they are religious, as an excuse for doing little or nothing. You should be taken to court for neglect.
# Even believers say that prayer can be an excuse for taking little or no action to solve problems. People may want to dump off the work on to God to let them live lazy and selfish and unfruitful lives and feel good about it.
#We would need to know how many pray because they don't want to do anything really productive for others. What if it is most or nearly all or actually all? We risk promoting evil if we promote prayer without knowing. Religion of course makes no effort to address this.
# Religion sometimes says that God does not ask for heroic service of others from us! The New Testament certainly says different! And heroes are really just ordinary scared people who made the decision to go among the dying and the suffering. We cannot tell ourselves that it is not in us to be as good as them for it is. Thus praying for people instead of going among them to suffer with them and die with them if need be is trying to feel you are doing something when you are doing damn all.
#Why are religious people always careful to ask for things that will probably happen anyway? They are trying to convince themselves that they have helped when they have not. But they accidently pray for things that they thought could happen anyway and which don't happen. If somebody whose recovery they pray for dies they tell themselves that the prayer brought them spiritual healing and that cannot be seen. They excuse failures and twist them into successes. Again it is themselves they are trying to convince. They are using the misfortune and sickness of another to fuel their own faith. Disgraceful!
#Prayer does not truly respect God if the backdrop is anything other than the attitude, "God is a noun but also an action verb. You must do what you ask him for. For example, instead of merely asking him to feed the starving, ask him to help you do it and go and do it." Thus those who pray for the poor and keep the money that can help them are hypocrites. That means nearly all Christians. Action should come before prayer or if you like action should be the prayer. If your prayer is not helping the person you are praying for and you cannot help that person, then help somebody else.
#Some say that praying for another is a do thing not an ask thing. Or it is more about doing than asking as such. You do the good as a prayer asking for divine help. Religion defines prayer as a relationship with God that need not be expressed by words. So you perform the request by doing what you ask God for. Prayer is action and action is prayer. But then you will think it is the action being prayer that helps not the action itself. In fact it is the action that helps. You are saying it is God that helps not you. It is a denial that doing good is good in itself regardless of whether you care for God or not. Your prayer in action is about intending to do nothing though benefit is done.
#Prayer is evil for some people would adore and revere an evil God and not even admit it to themselves or see it. Action is needed here to prove the words. That is why it is so important that before you call yourself good and compassionate, you must try to suffer all the suffering that has ever happened or will happen before you can judge that it fits the notion of a loving God who lets it happen. Only a person who experiences all suffering and the good that comes from it has the right to condone or risk condoning the evil that God lets befall the universe. Those who think God is evil might still adore him for they feel he will have them in Heaven forever and they don't care as long as it is to Hell with everybody else.
# Condoning evil that is done by a tyrant is motivated by a desire to stop fearing and hating the evil so much. You want to protect yourself from those hideous feelings. You feel a sense of control over the evil when you become complicit in it by silence or however. Prayer facilitates and nurtures your ability to condone the evil you think God lets befall people. There is no difference between the person who condones evil that is allowed to happen by his ruler saying it is for an unknown but good reason and one who says it is allowed by God. Prayer is evil. It is about people condoning the horrendous evil they see in order to delude themselves that they are bigger than the evil. They think that their marriage with God in prayer makes them bigger than the evil so that they do not have to fear it much.
#When reality and the rational world get too scary, we can relieve that fear by resorting to something irrational and illogical such as prayer and religion. They make us feel we are overpowering the rational. They make us feel powerful and in cahoots with the supernatural. Prayer relieves the fear of truth and reality. It is embracing irrationality to practice irrationality. It is really trying to feel good about doing nothing except dip into escapism.
#Prayer is evil for if God helps a person because he was asked then he did it because he was asked and not merely because it was good. It is evil to pray to such a genie God who is not good at heart. You are not really about helping people if you put them in the hands of such a god.
#When you pray for somebody when you cannot help them, you will feel like you did. No honest or fair person takes credit for helping others or claims they tried to help when there is no evidence that they did. They do not give themselves a pat on the back. They will not use somebody else's torture as an opportunity to feel holy, good and self-righteous. And if you cannot help somebody, then go and find somebody who you can help instead of praying for them.
#Why feel that your prayer has helped when you make excuses when you do not get what you asked for? If your father is not healed of cancer, you argue that the prayer did work in some unknown way but not in the way you asked or expected. Why not say, "When I touch wood and make a wish I get it. If I do not get that wish fulfilled it is because the magic has got me something as good or better"? So you reason that without the prayer it would be worse. You believe in the excuses more than in prayer or touching wood. The ancients argued that human sacrifice gave them what they asked for though not always in the expected way. The excuses can justify any superstition. They make one superstition as good as another. Prayer thrives on the superstitious attitude so if you encourage prayer you should encourage other kinds of superstition too - when you like blueberry pie you have to invite others to try pies to see what they like. It thrives on your desire to feel that you helped. If you really want to help, you will be careful to avoid excuses and you will ground yourself on evidence.
#Prayer then is taught in such a way that it cannot be shown useless but that means it cannot be shown useful either. If people suffer, that is too serious of a matter to be trivialised with such nonsense as the alleged power of prayer.
#Prayer is based on the notion that God communicates with you just as you are communicating with him by praying. Anyone in any kind of relationship knows how important communication is. Without communication from God and with God, it is hardly a relationship at all. So prayer goes hand in hand with inducing a delusion on yourself and in others through your example. This is enough to risk you getting detached enough from reality and other people that you are of little use to them. And it is arrogant to think God is communicating with you for no two people agree on what he is saying to them. It is their own thoughts they ascribe to God and it is arrogance to imagine you can work out what is from God and what is not.
# Some people believe that even the staunchest atheists have a relationship with God without realising it which would mean that everybody prays somehow and that nobody can say, "Those who think prayer doesn't work are not trying it". They say God is bigger than any errors a person makes and if the person has a good heart God is in that person and that person is connected with God. If this argument is true, it disposes of the notion that those who say prayer is no good for it is never answered are guilty of not doing it to try it. They would be praying without realising it. The argument gives more weight to the evidence that prayer is indeed useless. It makes prayer totally non-testable. If prayer is good we cannot know and we cannot blame anybody for giving up on it. It makes religion useless as a genuine spiritual force that betters the heart.
# Some people get the same feeling from saying a prayer as they do from having done something good. They may pray a lot because it is this buzz they want. They work for the buzz indirectly but they still work for it. Others will not get that feeling and hardly ever pray. The buzz comes to mothers who give their alcoholic sons a bottle of wine too. The buzz that one gets from praying for another is less impressive when it can come from doing fake good.
# Real prayer involves trusting God even if he does something terrible to a child. You must intend that he does his will even if it means that somebody has to be tortured by aliens for all eternity. God's plan lets evil happen which means the plan will not necessarily make anybody happier but works on developing the greatest virtue in the greatest number. The prayers of believers are not motivated by super-sacrifice intention so they are not prayers to God but to the image they have made of God. Prayer is not really about genuinely helping people. How can they be when they are not about connecting to a real God in the first place?
# Believers hold that if you pray for something good to happen and for God to give you graces etc that he will reward you for praying even if he didn't answer the prayers. It would be horrendous if people were praying for the sick because they want the reward! It would be horrendous if they were consoled by praying at the thought of the reward. That would be using the thought of a reward to dull the pain that you should feel when you see people suffering.
# Rewards mean nothing to us unless they are approval of us. People praying for others to get approved by God is selfish even if they do not care about money or any other reward.
# Religion is often vindictive. The believer often feels good about adoring an evil or partly-evil God and sees his evil as good. This believer is happy to see others suffer at the hands of this God for he thinks that they are suffering like him at last. Some think the suffering of others while they enjoy their lives makes them special in the sight of God and are happy that others suffer not them. Prayer urges people to sacrifice themselves on the altar of such religion by being eaten up by hatred.
# Prayer can be a way of letting your aggression out. It is an insult to the goodness in you and others to say that this goodness is not yours or theirs in reality but down to prayer/God. People who pray adore a God who supposedly makes sure that bad results are attached to your sins. So the wish to see justice or the come-uppance is there. There is no evidence that bottling things up is always bad. It depends on the circumstances. Your angry tirade against injustice will make you feel madder. Religion makes anger a sin but it has to get out and it will out. The ban on anger stops religious people from being honest about their anger.
# It would be terrible to be at the mercy of our feelings all the time and have to do what they demand. We don't really want to do what we feel all the time. Submission to whatever will be is all we need. We do not need to submit to God. Just submit and forget about God and the manipulative religious baggage that comes with God.
#Prayer is bad in principle. It is always bad. Principle means it is bad in itself regardless of how good it makes people feel and how harmless it may appear. All bad things start with bad principles - that is why bad principles need to be nipped in the bud. The person who prays is not an island. God and prayer are not just about you. Other people are into them too. Do not pray and do not share in the culture of prayer. If you do, you share in the evil that will result and are disgracefully behind the risk of other evil coming. Truth is not about you.
People might think prayer brings relief but it never does. There are better explanations for that feeling of relief. We should go and do all we can for the person in trouble instead of asking God to do something about it. We will do that if we really care. Those who are encouraged to appreciate your prayers for them are being manipulated.