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WHAT GOD DOESN’T LIKE ABOUT PRAYER

<THY WILL BE DONE>

PRAYING FOR PROTECTION IS FANATICAL

PRAYER_AND_EARTHQUAKES_

WHY HOLY PRAYER IS WICKED

WORSHIP DENIES GOD

PRAYER IS PSYCHOLOGICAL MANIPULATION

SINNERS AND PRAYER_

PRAYER IS NEVER ANSWERED

MENTAL PRAYER: THE ONLY VIRTUE

MY LETTER

CONCLUSION

 

Atheists find prayer offensive. We will see that prayer is actually worse than magic which most people consider harmful. Prayer is a declaration that religious dogma has value and not people.

 

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WHAT GOD DOESN’T LIKE ABOUT PRAYER

 

Prayer is communication with God. It is union with God and believers say it is two way. God unites with you when you pray and you unite with him.

 

Prayer is not necessarily vocal it can just be an attitude you carry around in your heart. It can just be an intention that you don’t put into words.

 

Petitionary prayer, prayer that asks for something, either influences God or it does not. All prayer is intended to be petitionary for even when you don’t ask for a favour but just want to be with God you must necessarily intend that he helps you be really with him.

 

When terrorists murder innocent people, the ministerial sycophants step smugly into their pulpits and remind the congregation that the terrorists need its prayers.  They need its prayers.  That is they have a right to be prayed for.  Do they?  The Church says we do not deserve grace or help from God to live a holy life and we do not deserve to be forgiven our sins.  The purpose of praying for them is that God will change their hearts.  That he will do whatever it is that will impress them best so that they will change. So if that means making them get away with it, decide to give up terrorism and start a happy family life or turning themselves in so be it.  Also, if somebody does something bad Christianity and Islam would say that they hope the person was insane for the sake of her or his soul which is in danger of everlasting punishment.  So praying for them can amounts to several things.  One of them is wishing that the terrorists are insane.  Clearly then the concern is not really for the evil they have done but for the evil they intend.  If they are insane they don’t intend evil properly for they are sick.  So it is okay then if the terrorists keep killing people as long as they are insane.

 

The terrorists need prayers then to keep them from getting their come-uppance in Hell.  Praying for them is therefore more important than praying for the innocent victims or their families.  If there is a choice, it is the terrorists that should be prayed for.

 

Praying for the terrorists is fanaticism.  It is just another quieter form of the exact same fanaticism that impels terrorists to maim and murder.  The praying is hypocrisy.  It insults the victims.  Prayer is indeed a declaration of ones attitude that dogma has value and people do not.  Religion makes people so irrational that they might not be able to let themselves see this.

 

Some believers say that asking God for a favour is not asking for something but rather asking that we become worthy of the favour even if he won’t grant it.  They argue that way for they say that prayer does not change God.  But God has to change us which still amounts to making God do something!  If prayer does nothing to change God then what do we pray to saints to influence him for?  And is it right to ask for your sick dog to get better when you really mean that you hope you will be a better master to him if he gets better?  And why ask for help to become a better master as if you shouldn’t be trying on your own to be better?  Why insult yourself that you cannot be better for him without needing a God to give you a shot in the arm?

 

If God is influenced by prayer then God needs to be influenced for he is imperfect and therefore not really a God and prayer is not an act of faith but an attempt to fool a stupid God into helping you. It’s black magic.  Prayer is an act of pride.  “Ha ha God, you need my influence.  I am better than you though I am not the maker of the universe”.

 

It is a big thing in modern spirituality that nobody can hurt you unless you let them.  This mentality blames the rape victim, for example, for being upset and devastated about being violated.  If God helps and God does miracles, if magic helps and magic does miracles then this vicious attitude is more justified than it is.  If there is supernormal or magical power available to help, it is far more the victim's fault for suffering than it is if there is no such power.   That is the kind of malevolence that people who say miracles happen are engendering.  Roman Catholicism upholds saints who suffered beyond belief for the faith as examples of how people can have peace and joy no matter what others do to them.  The Church says these people turned to God and trusted him so much that nobody was really able to hurt them - they were so happy they might not have even registered the physical pain.  So the Church then needs to explain why we should disparage rapists if the victims cause their own suffering.  So the Church needs to explain why we should disparage paedophiles and child molesters for the victims have chosen to hurt themselves because of the abuse.  It is small wonder with an attitude like that how the Church has so little sympathy for victims of child sex abuse.  The Church has to think that the victims damaged themselves in relation to how they responded to the abuse and so the abuse itself did little harm.  The Church has to think that the victims are evil for wanting the molesters punished for what the victims did to themselves.

 

Nobody denies that even if there is a true religion, the mega-vast majority of God people today have beliefs they wrongly think were revealed by God.  These people get their erroneous faith through prayer.  When prayer fails to wean them off error and give them light  is it not clear that prayer is making them pridefully sure that their own DIY creed is from God.  The assurance is not coming from God but themselves.

 

If God is not influenced then what he is going to do he is going to do and prayer serves no purpose. It gives unrealistic comfort and it means there is nothing you can do to guarantee happiness for God might send depression on you or kill all your family in a car crash. Prayer then would not comfort you. If comfort came, it came not because of prayer but because God decided to give it irrespective of whether you prayed or not. You might as well never say a prayer then. It would be more realistic not to seek comfort in prayer. It would be a sin to look for comfort in it for that is making a demand of God who chooses to do what he likes and whose total autonomy must be upheld.

 

No matter how you view prayer, you cannot please God with it. Prayer is blasphemy in his eyes.  Therefore religion is blasphemy.

 

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<THY WILL BE DONE>

 

You can pray even if you hate God for you can still talk to him. You must intend to communicate because if you don’t you are not praying but just play-acting.

 

Prayer cannot be any value or have any merit before God unless it is about entering into communion with him which means letting him be Lord and master by submitting all you want and do to him so that he calls the shots in your life. If God is influenced by prayer then he cannot be swayed by prayer that does not express the desire to be in union with him, that is, to love him or submit to him. This communion must be selfless – seeking nothing for yourself.   We know how sick and dangerous selflessness is.  It suggests that other people matter and you don’t and you are just an instrument while they must be thought of as persons.  They are to think of you the same way so the end result is that nobody should be happy.

 

Holy prayer is the union of the heart and mind with God.

 

God has the power to reduce the inclination you have towards sin and make you more inclined to do holy things. The Church says he helps us in these ways and this help is called grace which means free gift. It is called free gift because we do not deserve it! And the Church says we cannot be saved without grace. God in his Bible says the same thing (Ephesians 2:8-10). If you don’t pray you don’t get grace. What is so offensive then about prayer and grace is the notion that we don’t deserve to be helped to live a better life. That is incoherence. If we don’t deserve that we deserve nothing and are trash. If we can earn God’s help then we don’t need prayer. Prayer is offering yourself to God while you try to make yourself feel like dirt. It’s an insult to God. Christianity calls this humility but it is degradation.

 

Holy prayer is not prayer or a sincere communion with God when it does not will only what God wills. It is just a pretence then. All holy prayer is, in essence, the hearty praying of, “Thy will be done.” It consists of confidence in divine power and submission to it which is the same as submission to him. In other words, you do not ask God to keep you safe on the boat tomorrow. That is expressing a desire to be safe when what you should be desiring is that God will do what he wants even if it means leaving you to drown in an accident. You are asking God to fulfil his desire instead of your own.  In fact, if you really believe God is always right you will not wish to be safe on the boat.  You will not wish it for anybody else either.  You will wish that God will do what he wants even if that means he will send a storm to drown you.   

 

Good wishes expressed through prayer, "I pray that God will heal you", "I pray that your marriage will be happy and blessed with children" and so on are really just believers being false.  It is no wonder that God believers live out a hypocrisy that is often astonishing.

 

So comforting people by praying for them PROPERLY is a waste of time.  Religion should have the honesty to teach this openly and forbid prayer as it is always done.  It should forbid wishing that the children will not be picked up by some insane paedophile when they come out of school for it might be God's intention that this should happen.  But religion refuses to be honest for people would see that it is only foolishness to expect anybody to gain comfort and psychological strength from prayer. Religion would lose its attraction so it keeps the sinister doctrine under wraps to deceive its followers. Yet in dusty tomes that the public never reads, the Church admits that prayer cannot and is not meant to change God (page 133, Unblind Faith).

 

“Thy will be done”, then is the essence of prayer. How can it be a petition because God is going to do his will whether you ask him or not? All it is, is saying, “I ask nothing of you. I want you to do what you want, I am not asking you but I am just telling you what I want.” You can’t say you have asked somebody what they are guaranteed to do for asking implies they might not and need to be encouraged to do it. So rather than a petition, “Thy will be done”, is an expression of submission to the will of God. It means, “I approve of your will O God and I submit to it”. Therefore the prayer of petition is a hoax. It’s a bait that the Church knows will attract you to her and that is all she wants it for.

 

To work prayer has to require some power from God to see into the hearts and minds of others. Religion says prayer is useless unless you do it to request and find holiness through receiving gifts from God.   If you pray to be holy you are praying above all for guidance for if there is no guidance there can be no holiness.  So you need guidance to see who is trying to corrupt you, who is opposed to God and your holiness.  You have to be shown the secrets of the hearts of others to some extent.  So prayer is a sneaky attempt to invade the privacy of others.  Its an attempt to violate their secret place.   Astrology and fortune telling are evil attempts to find forbidden information about others and prayer is no better.  The fact that the vast majority of people are not that holy and have no right to the information because of that shows how evil prayer is.  It’s sneaky. 

 

Religion says that we can be like martyrs singing with joy as the lions tear us to bits if we submit enough to God's will.  "Thy will be done" then is a plea to Heaven for God to make you abnormal and the kind of maniac that would rejoice in suffering for him.  It implies that we should not upset ourselves over the suffering of others for it is self-inflicted.  If they loved God enough, it implies, they will not suffer.

 

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PRAYER, ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY FOR SALVATION

 

The Catholic Church following the Bible which says that all who call on the name of the Lord for eternal salvation will be saved teaches that prayer is absolutely necessary for salvation. This doctrine is in the Bible which claims that the prayer of accepting Christ is necessary for salvation (page 1, The Great Means of Salvation and of Perfection). We have seen earlier that grace is necessary for salvation and prayer is the means of obtaining grace so prayer is necessary for salvation.

 

Anybody that is damned is damned or thrown in Hell forever simply because they did not pray enough or when they needed to (page 30, 31, The Great Means of Salvation and Perfection). Without prayer to get God’s hand over you, you would commit every sin you could (page 56, The Great Means of Salvation and Perfection).

 

The Church opposed the Pelagians for denying that prayer was needed for salvation (page 5, The Great Means of Salvation and of Perfection). It observes that Jesus said that without his grace one can do nothing and not that one cannot complete anything (page 6, The Great Means of Salvation and of Perfection). Logically then the reason Adam sinned in the Garden of Eden was because he did not turn to God in prayer for help in the face of temptation (page 10, The Great Means of Salvation and of Perfection). If that is true then Adam sinned by not praying so he was a sinner before he ate the forbidden fruit yet the whole point of the forbidden fruit was so that Adam would sin if he ate it. So God overlooked the sin of not praying for help in order to pick on Adam for eating a fruit. This is a totally absurd doctrine. Not turning to God is worse than eating of a fruit.

 

The doctrine that prayer is needed for salvation means that praying is more important than doing all possible good works. It is better to give five minutes of your entire life praying than to do all these works consistently and heroically all your life without praying. This is misanthropic fanaticism carried to the extreme. How people can claim to be humble while claiming that by praying they have done the main good work is amazing. If you have the right to believe something so horrible then how can you object if somebody else believes in acting this horrible? I mean if somebody wants to offer human sacrifices? If faith comes first as you say then you could not blame them for thinking they should do it and are right to actually do it.

 

Forcing a person to pray makes the prayer worthless. But if prayer is necessary for salvation then you are forced to do it for you will rot in Hell forever if you don’t. You might not feel forced but you would if you really believed. You are asked to live every moment like it was your last. And prayer is necessary to prepare for the last moment. It is the one thing that you cannot omit. That means that if you are going to live as if you are ready to die you are forced to pray as much as you physically and mentally can. Compulsion makes your prayer impotent. The doctrine of eternal punishment prevents you praying. The doctrine then could only come from the Devil if it is true that prayer is the only way to salvation. If you don’t sense you are being forced then you do not really believe in what you think is the word of God and you cannot be saved anyway.

 

Even if we reject eternal punishment there is still the problem that God hates sin infinitely so it is the worst evil. God’s love is immeasurable so his hatred of sin is immeasurable so we should hate sin at all costs and pray to avoid it. Again compulsions steps in. Prayer is only really possible for those who believe in Gods who are very human and have human frailties. Everybody else just only thinks they are praying.

 

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PRAYING FOR PROTECTION IS FANATICAL

 

It is fanaticism to pray for protection, physical or spiritual, for yourself or others. Yet all reverent prayer contains the intention that God will protect your soul against vice.

 

If you pray to God then you are praying to the most powerful thing there is. So it follows that praying for a seriously ill person is far more important than getting the doctor. Believers will get the doctor but that does nothing to allay the fanaticism in their attitude. If they had to pray or getting the doctor and they could only do one of these they would pray. The fanaticism means they cannot object when they go that far if God forbids getting the doctor so it is plain murderous. To prefer death for another is like willing it so it is a black heart that would do it. Prayer is meant to lead a person to better submission to the Church and its fanaticism implies, “If I can regard prayer as more important than doctors because of the influence of the Church then by logic I should heed and obey everything my Church commands for God speaks through the Church”.

 

Prayer brainwashes. If you would put your relations on a shipwreck in the hands of a God whose existence you cannot be very sure of then you are mad for you feel you love them but how can you when you are doing that? Would you love them if you prayed to Sinbad the Sailor to save them? No for that is like asking Hitler to look after your little Jewish daughter. When you ask God to save a life you are resolving you will accept it if he does not do it so you are confessing God has the right to kill. To approve of death for the sake of a hypothetical God is very unreasonable and callous. To say that such evil may be compatible with God’s plan in some unknown way is to make evil permissible while to say that evil is useless gives it what it really should get, total intolerance. We must will it not to happen. Full stop. God is an evil hypothesis and so prayer is evil and dehumanising.

 

Though God knows exactly what we need before we ask him, he asks us to pray. It is not to tell him what we want or to tell him what he should do because he already knows and if he should do something he will do it without prayer but to be humble and show him that we are so inferior to him and so make a sacrifice of time and our powers to please him alone (Question 82, Radio Replies Volume 3; page 180, In Defence of the Faith). This is degrading unless you are more sure that God exists than you are that you exist which is impossible for you experience your own existence though many religious people lie that they are that sure. You come first and you are meant to love what is outside of you by loving yourself. It is as degrading as bowing before an idol and not being sure enough that it is a god. But the Church commands all to pray and even has agnostics doing it.

 

Young people tend to pray to do well in exams. In essence, this is not praying to become a better and holier person whatever happens and through whatever happens so God will not listen to it. He wants you to be more interested in being holy than in success. Praying to pass or do well is simply asking God to help you to cheat. You want God to make sure only the material you are familiar with or succeed in remembering will come up which is cheating for the purpose of exams is for you to know everything on your course so that you will be prepared for anything that comes up for anything could.

 

Confidence in God’s power to keep you safe or to undo the damage you do is dangerous for it will lead to a lack of effort on your part to at least some extent. When you won’t act, God has to if he is good for the sake of other people. He cannot let the worst happen intending to make amends later for that does not justify it. That is all very well but what if there is no God? Religion is usually reluctant to make sure that everybody knows all about the doctrines its has. Religion tells people to turn to God in prayer for answers and that is a dangerous approach if there is no God. It is fanatical. Psychics are often bad news but this is no better.

 

We know that belief in miracles is bad and irrational.  Prayer makes no sense unless you think that God is tweaking the way things work by secretly miraculously intervening to do what you ask.  It would be extreme arrogance to hold that God has to do such things over you. 

 

Prayer is inhuman.

 

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PRAYER AND EARTHQUAKES

 

Religion says that God creates earthquakes.  If you live in such a unstable area, it is your own fault if you end up dying in an earthquake.  That is what the God belief implies for nobody can say it is a great thing to be caught in an earthquake and end up crushed under rubble.  To pray then that an earthquake will never happen when you are living in a dangerous area is the same as praying that you will not be hurt when you step out in front of a speeding car.  It is tempting God and mocking him.  Up to a point, praying for your mother never to get cancer is tempting God for we live in a world in which people do get cancer.  And besides, God might call you selfish for such a prayer is wishing that somebody else's mother will get the cancer.

 

To this putting the blame on the victim I have to say the following.  It is only in the last few thousand years we got to understand that some areas are dangerous.  Most of the people who ever lived in those areas lived there long before we understood.  We are not to blame for our ignorance.  Also, God could fix the earthquake zones without anybody knowing just because there are people in danger there.  If God and his creation is so great what does he need earthquakes to destroy his creation for?   Most of the people living in earthquake zones have family and friends there and cannot be blamed for wanting to be with them and taking the risk.  To suggest they should know better to leave is just inhuman.

 

Which is better:

 

1    If you live in an earthquake zone and you die in an earthquake and no all good magical being is responsible or has let it happen

 

2    If you live in an earthquake zone and you die in an earthquake and no all good magical being is responsible or has let it happen

 

With 1, one can say you didn't go there to force an all-good God to hurt you.  With 2, you can.

 

With 1, one can revile your death and how it happened while with 2 you have to find a way to condone it.

 

With 1 you are more human and more feeling and you are not creating beliefs that require you to look on human suffering as not so bad.

 

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WHY HOLY PRAYER IS WICKED

 

Holy prayer, prayer that is seemingly meant to please God, is evil.

 

First of all, we know it is bad for we know that we have unfree will.  Free will is an illusion or a mere feeling.  A feeling has nothing to do with showing we really have free will.  You can’t be free unless you know you are free and you cannot know that.  There is no being to answer prayer and if there is then he is the Devil for though unfree we suffer because he won’t do anything.

 

Second, in this world, one event however small effects the way all others happen so for one to be helped others have to suffer in the process. Prayer is vindictively petitioning God to hurt others for your sake for frequently insignificant favours. It is vindictive for it is fanatical to pray for anything.   Somebody has to lose so you can win.  It could be a loved one.  Prayer logically reduces love and respect for others and asks God to make a priority of delivering what you want.  It is asking God to make a priority of you and to hell with everybody else. 

 

Thanking God for the good things in your life insults those who suffer. You say they suffer for a good purpose. But why thank God when the good things you get may not be intended for you but are just sent for a good purpose? When God may not be giving them willingly then why thank him? You are insulting sufferers for their suffering is reckoned to be for a good purpose while your blessings are taken to be gifts from God and not mere stepping stones to something better if not for you then somebody else.

 

Third, prayer is an act of camouflaged Devil-worship if we are sinners or think ourselves to be. You cannot mean, “O Lord, thy will be done!” when you won’t do it yourself and it is a sin to mean: let everybody love you but me. Religion says that sin is always in us and is being done at the back of our minds – eg. We would not do all we can to save the starving millions. Prayer is indirect Satan-worship if it insults God and direct Satan-worship if God is believed to honour your sin of prayer. “I love you, God” of which petitionary prayer is an expression is evil.

 

Fourth, you cannot believe in prayer without claiming that the God it is directed to does evil for a mysterious purpose which is a dangerous and blasphemous supposition. An all-good God would not want us to believe in it for if we do then we should say the same about all monsters though no rational excuse can be found. It allows religion to make cruel rules and say that the rules are right because God knows what he is doing.

 

Fifth, prayer is loving God alone while bending into the dust and inwardly moaning about how worthless you are and that he alone counts. It is degrading to put that which may not exist before yourself who you know does exist and before others who you see and hear like him. The absence of self-esteem corrupts the mind and can take away health.

 

Sixth, praying for suffering babies in the Third World is sheer mockery when you won’t give all you have for them and go out to them.  You are really asking for somebody else to help them.  The result of you giving all you have for them and going to them will be much good that won’t happen without you.  No, you want God to send other people to them and maybe make it easy for everybody by doing a miracle for them. 

 

Religion claims that you will feel you have to do more for them if you pray to God to help them.  God will put that feeling in you so praying is putting yourself at his service.  It is asking for the strength to fulfil the prayer yourself.  Asking God then to help the suffering babies is asking him to send you to them or to do something big for them.  Such prayer cannot be much good for only a tiny number get the call to help from prayer.  Most do not. 

 

The Church writes prayers for all occasions. If prayer and those who do it are so great then why are there no prayers for people going through a divorce or who are coming out of the closet as gay? Even if the Church despises these actions it could still pray that they will do what they feel is right for them. It cannot for it pretends to know it all. This is nothing more than accusing those people of doing what they are doing in bad faith. If they are in good faith then pray for them. The absence of such prayers proves that the Church is very unfair.

 

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WORSHIP DENIES GOD

 

I never love another person but my perception of them which is only as good as what I think I see and what they want to tell me. The same is true of God no matter how well I think I know him. It is arrogance to claim to know God. It’s pride, the sin that made the Devil fall from Paradise. Prayer is arrogance. The less you know of what God has revealed then the more your God is an idol when you worship him. You are worshipping your perception and therefore your needs and feelings and pretending they are directed to God but they are not. When you adore what you want or see God to be you are not adoring God. God is God and not our feelings and not your perceptions. You do this all the time but you do it far more obviously and strongly the less you know. Nobody can be sure they really know what God has revealed therefore prayer is self-centred and powerless.

 

 

Religion says you should not pray to change God for God knows himself what to do and it would not be humble to. However it is accepted that it is right to ask God to change you for the better to make you a more spiritual person. The man who has no time for the superstition that prayer changes God who prays for his dying child prays for the strength to help the child not for God to cure the child (page 149, The Puzzle of God). But this is still trying to change God for he is asking for God to change him if he fails to tend his child. The man is really pretending he is asking God for help. What he is really doing is administering therapy to himself. He finds prayer soothing and so he does it not to love God but because it is soothing and makes him feel better and consider what he might do to help his child more. But that is not prayer and God would find it offensive for God likes to be the be-all-and-end-all.

 

The suggestion that God makes all the decisions and prayer cannot change him will suggest that if he answers prayer then he foresaw what prayers we were going to make and rigged things beforehand to answer them. But that has what has not happened causing what has happened and that is ridiculous. It would be more reasonable if God let the prayer happen first and then fix things. The other view gives him too much control over everything that happens. It ends up being fatalistic. It ends up saying that God is to blame for everything that goes wrong.

 

Now why would God do what the suggestion says and rig things so that you will sometimes pray for what he plans to give you do that anyway when he works for the best? He could just make his plans and forget about prayers which will have the result that many people will pray for things he is going to do anyway and they will think it is an answer to their prayers and it is not. The reason what they wanted to happen happened had nothing to do with their prayers but God was going to do them anyway. What is the point of God answering prayers when nobody knows if they are really answered even when the requested thing happens? It is superstition to say that God answers prayers.

 

To suggest that any answers to prayer we will get are preordained implies that God inspires us to pray for things he will not give us. This doctrine infers that God is a crank and cannot be trusted. All understandings of how God answers prayer deny that he is reliable. If faith follows prayer then faith did it in spite of prayer and not because of it.

 

 

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PRAYER IS PSYCHOLOGICAL MANIPULATION

 

Religious people want you to pray so that their agenda will have a greater hold over you.

 

All religionists teach that belief in God and any interest in spiritual matters will die away without prayer. Quality not quantity should matter with God so if a person prays once to be blessed with graces from God for life that prayer should suffice. If a person prays once in their life that God must do whatever he wills no matter who doesn't like it they should not need to pray again. Religion doesn’t teach that prayer needs only be done once.  It militates against the notion most vehemently.  Its teaching shows that prayer for it is not about God at all but about clergy wanting to brainwash you. Prayer is like auto-suggestion that reinforces the undue influence of religious faith and cultism on you. To have a child pray is to abuse that child.

 

If one person in the world prays that God's will be done and nobody else prays ever the prayer will cover them too.  If God answers the prayer he will do his will.  He will give blessings and health to unbelievers and he may give suffering and poverty to his followers.  What good can it do one of the lucky ones then to pray?  Believers attribute the blessings in life to praying to God but people who don't pray get the blessings too.  Prayer seems fanciful and seems to be as unhealthy and distracting from reality as daydreaming.

 

The real reason why spiritual life flounders without prayer is that religion disguises prayer as something appealing and something that is wholesome even when it is a pain in the neck. This tells us that the trouble that religious people cause is all for one thing, their own spiritual thrills. Spirituality thrives on the denial that the human being is a naturally selfish (I mean that we love ourselves and help others because we love ourselves not that we are naturally violent and evil) creature even in prayer. Only a minority of the people in any congregation might come close to being real authentic members of the religion they profess so religion and prayers and Masses cause a lot of dissension and hassle just for the convenience of a minority of real – say - Catholics in the midst of a great crowd of fake Catholics.

 

How anybody can say that religion is a justifiable evil is a mystery especially when they and their religion believe that people are more likely to abuse something than respect it or as religion puts it, because we have had original sin we are more likely to sin than to avoid sin. Prayer gives religious people the desire for gratification through religion. This is a subtle form of selfishness and not just selfishness but unbalanced and unreasonable selfishness.

 

Religion encourages sinners to pray even when they are not repentant. The result is that they feel better about their sins though they have no intention of giving them up yet and when they retain sins they will retain some forever. All are supposedly sinners so religion cannot dare forbid this abuse. Thus we find that prayer is like an anaesthetic for the conscience that increases love for evil for it certainly does not increase love for God when they are staying in their sins. This creates an addiction. Religion tries to become like a drug you get hooked on. How anybody can think religion is a source for good is amazing! It may be a source for cleverly disguised good but any real good is done in spite of it and not because of it.

 

Prayer encourages suspicion and division between people with different views. It causes antagonism. Prayer makes the devout look down on the good works of those who do not pray. The devout say you need grace to do really good works for we are all infested with sin. So the more religious a person is the more likely it is that their good works are really good and done with a good motive. Prayer then is intended to curtain the devout off from “inferior” people.

 

The devout say that God does the good works they do, not themselves. This is a sinister denial of human goodness. When you do good don’t be afraid to take the credit at least in your own mind. Don’t be duped by schemers who want you to think you have nothing to offer without God. They want you to be addicted to God to get false sense of self-esteem. Self-esteem that comes that way is dangerous and fragile and is not the real thing.

 

God is said to answer all prayers that plead for the enlightenment of the atheists and others for wisdom is one of the most important gifts. So prayer accuses atheists and agnostics and believers who barely believe of resisting his light if they don’t convert to theism or convert properly or to whatever faith the one doing the praying thinks is the true religion. Prayer is insulting and arrogant.

 

Jesus said to love your neighbour as yourself is like the commandment to love God with all your heart. That clearly shows that the God dogma implies we should all become fundamentalist fanatics for God said that no work that is good in his sight though it may be good in the sight of men can be done without prayer. The result is that we end up one of these fundies in our attitude even when this attitude does not spill over into fanatical acts. The message prayer gives is that humanity was made for faith and not faith for humanity which is a clear invitation to the world to be full of poison disguised as sweetness.

 

Prayer is bad because religious belief is.

 

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SINNERS AND PRAYER

 

The Bible and the Church says that when we pray the Holy Spirit prays with us and in our place to make up for our deficiencies and that all prayer is inspired by God (Romans 8:26).  When you pray for your baby to get better and it doesn't did God inspire you to pray for something that was against his will?  The doctrine is so absurd.  It shows that if prayer works, it is not down to a God.  A God that inspires you to pray for things he has no intention of giving you is a deceitful God.  Prayer would prove his sneakiness more than his reliability.  It wouldn't prove that prayer works.  If you ask a disobedient brat to do something and he does it, it only proves he did it to please himself and not because you asked him.  Your asking him didn't work - it only looked as if it did.

 

The Catholic Church and many other religions tell people that they can pray well and love God while deliberately adhering to sin which is impossible. People who don’t speak out against these abominations are just as bad as the priests and spiritual fathers who foster them.

 

A sinner cannot love God. The sinner’s love for God is a mere pretence when they adhere to sin for who can will what God wills and not will it at the same time? The sinner can’t say, “God’s will be done”, and mean it.

 

The love of God and the love of neighbour go together. So if you sin against your neighbour you sin against God and if you sin against God you sin against your neighbour. If you don’t love God then you don’t love the being upon which the welfare of others depends so you cannot sincerely love them. If you don’t love your neighbour you don’t love God for he wants you to love them and you owe it to him to do what he wills. All sin so all are telling God how much they fool themselves that they love him which makes them the most dangerous enemies of God of the lot. Prayer mocks God so it despises neighbours too. Praying for others is hypocrisy.

 

There is no God when we can’t pray owing to deliberate sin for he made us to love him if he exists. If we were made to love one another and not him he would not reveal to us or care if we believed or not. He would program our intelligence which is programmed anyway not to even think of him existing when prayer is bad. People think of God not existing so there is no God.

 

Atheists rightly take offence when somebody promises to pray for them. Praying for the conversion of Atheists is patronising them and being self-righteous for it comes from the “we are right and they are wrong” kind of attitude. Praying is stranger than casting spells over a cauldron. Prayer is an insult to God and if an answer from God is anticipated that only goes to show that it is an attempted and shoddy spell. It is trying to control God by words and thoughts. Prayer denies that God is God for he can be fooled by mortal men and women.

 

 

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PRAYER IS NEVER ANSWERED

 

It has been found that statistically people who pray are no better off than those who don’t (page 157, The Puzzle of God) so that shows that there is no God or that prayer is no good if there is. Bishop John AT Robinson in Honest to God wrote that when you pray for another you are opening yourself up unconditionally to love for him or her before God (page 99). We are incapable of this love – we only love selfishly - so prayer is only for perfected saints. Coming from anybody else it is a show-off and could not possibly cause supernatural benefits except by black magic.

 

Ayn Rand claimed that belief in God is demeaning because it suggests that man is an inferior being and has to worship an ideal represented by God that he will never achieve (page 230, Christianity for the Tough-Minded). She is right for you should be happy with yourself as you are and this will improve you automatically. There is no way then that prayer with the example and message it gives could be really helping another person. Any help it gives is useless compared to the damage.

 

Some hotly contested studies claim to show that people who pray are mentally healthier and get better quicker than people who do not. It is certain that since one prayer should be enough if God is going to help you that this is not down to prayer but to the good feelings it may induce. Prayer is relaxing. But any relaxation technique that appeals to you should do. We are not told about those who prefer to heal themselves through the power of relaxation and inner peace not by prayer but by using crystals and spells and other actions which the Church considers profane for they imply that magic is necessary to get favours from God for he is incompetent in many things. Prayer does not help because it cannot help without a positive outlook so it is magic that really does the work if anything supernatural is happening. The relaxing and hopeful attitude behind prayer helps but that is not the same thing as prayer helping. Cheerfully chatting all day is great therapy when you are sick. Prayer has the same effect for it is like cheerfully chatting to your friend God. But God is not nice so the good results have nothing to do with him and you only imagine he is a nice guy. Prayer is not supposed to be about healing and helping but about bringing yourself and others into submission to God so the studies are irreverent and distorting what prayer would mean if there is a God. Only the Devil could ensure that the results of the studies are positive towards prayer.

 

The reason the Church says that prayer is necessary for remaining a true believer in God is that most believers in God believe because they think they have got results from their prayers which indicates that there is a God out there. So when Jim prays for a bicycle and he gets one within days he thinks this is an answer to his prayers. But Jim has a brain and knows he might have got the bike anyway. There must be a fear then that makes him ignore this and attribute the act to God. The fear is that he might be ungrateful and get no more favours from this God if he decides it was not or might not have been God after all. So it is guilt then that makes people think that prayer works even though most of the time prayers are unanswered. Prayer is bad for this reason. If God or prayer were really good then a person deciding that a seeming answer to prayer was not a real answer from God and was just a coincidence would be seen as doing nothing wrong. To condemn or penalise them is simply to hold that they have no right to think for themselves or have their own opinion. So prayer is not so virtuous and wonderful after all! Anything that produces guilt dents self-esteem which is so essential for living a life of decency that has concern for others so prayer causes much indirect evil and violence.

 

We want people to find us lovable.  If we think we are causing people to love us say by magic that love will not satisfy us.  It is manipulation that is causing the love.  The love isn't real for it is not us that is found lovable but magic making people think we are lovable.  It is about the magic and not us.  Christianity teaches that God enables his true followers to love one another and that this love is not natural but a supernatural gift of God called grace.  It is another way of saying that real love is magic.  The Church says love needs to be a gift from God and not our creation for we are so bad and stupid and imperfect.  This wouldn't be love.  God and love are irreconcilable.  Prayer is basically asking God to help us love him and others far more or to start loving others as God wants.  The Church says that prayer is about love above all things.  Prayer is evil.  To derive satisfaction from it is delusional.

 

Prayers are never really answered when they steal your soul and mental balance for some seeming answer to prayer. What you get is not worth the praying for prayer is inherently demeaning and has bad psychological effects that outweigh the psychological benefits.

 

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MENTAL PRAYER: THE ONLY VIRTUE

 

Sin is what does not give to the Lord the honour which he is due. Forgetting God is a sin. If God comes first, as the very concept of God implies, he should not be forgotten. But we have to forget God to live in this world. For example, you cannot even cook the dinner if you are going to think only of God. Your concentration will fail you.

 

Christianity says that God wants you to serve him by living in the world as a normal person. But this contradicts its doctrine that God has to come first.  Out of sight out of mind.

 

If God is to be supreme then we should think of his presence and nothing else and forget about helping others and working for they are only distractions. They are idolatries.

 

Even vocal prayer, prayer that is made up of words is sinful. When you say the prayer Jesus made, “Our Father who art in Heaven”, you are thinking of the words and not just not the presence of God.  The words distract you at least partly from your focus on the divine presence.  You can’t even have a picture of God in your head for that is thinking of an image and not of God. All you can do is be aware that he is there.

 

We see then that everything is evil and of the Devil except resting in the presence of God in a state of freedom from sin. Distraction need not always be sinful but it would always be evil. It would be something we need to be sorry for.

 

Like the Hindu holy men, we must sit staring vacantly into space and be passive. We must let the ivy grow all over us and the birds build their nests on our heads.

 

If this is against God’s will then God is evil. Then he did not make us to put him first and therefore has no reason to let us suffer. It would be actually crueller to say that we should suffer needlessly than that we should repose in him. Meditation is better for us.

 

If life is just about a choice between involvement in the world and meditation then suffering is wholly pointless. The mediator would be condoning the depravity of God simply by trying to get close to him and to please him, to reward him for being bad, in effect. One might argue like the Christian Science Church that suffering is an illusion and that the hideous things one sees happening around her or him are not real. They exist so that we might make the sacrifice of treating them as unreal for God.

 

Some would say that God would want us to be able to meditate or try to despite suffering which gives our efforts more merit. But that if that is correct in principle it is not in practice because suffering distracts from God which means he has to do without it if he wants our attention.

 

If virtue is the means to an end then it follows that if God comes first then focusing only on him should be the end we are all after not helping other people or being happy. This is a revolting idea. Virtue that is not just a means to make other people happy is not virtue and that is the final word. Virtue that focuses on making a God who is already perfectly happy, happy is a perversion not virtue. What about people that bleed and suffer? Virtue that is not primarily focused on one’s own happiness is a disorder and to be focused on something like God that is going to get the benefit instead of others is to repudiate happiness.

 

Serving others so that when you see them happy, that will make you happy, is really to work for your own happiness and not theirs for your motive is your own happiness.  Their happiness is but the means to the end, and the end is your happiness.  But God says love your neighbour as yourself so he forbids you to get self-esteem in helping others. You help others as yourself without doing it all because you love yourself and consider yourself worthwhile. That command is meant to do one thing, break people down and turn them into failures. It is no wonder the majority of Christians live bad lives at least from a God or Bible perspective. Yet prayer is about trying to love your neighbour as yourself so prayer is a deadly device.

 

God-based religion is certainly pro-perversion whether it notices it or not and must be firmly but gently corrected. God, if he is maker of all things, then made the aberration in us that makes us develop happiness when we stop focusing on it. This suggests that happiness is something he does not like. Religion might say we are only to have stopped directly focusing on happiness and we are still after it but indirectly but if God made that system it suggests a grudging tolerance of self-love. He can’t stomach it but just endures it. God prefers us if we distort our feelings and end up depressed and miserable. To see us happy is as vulgarity to him.

 

The Church claims to agree with humanists these days that the person or human life is the most important thing to look after. But that totally contradicts the first greatest commandment which makes God the most valuable thing when it commands that you love God with all your heart and powers. It implies that it is better to die than to sin. The nearest way you can get to holding God as the supreme value and then life is by holding that prayer and thinking of God should be the only activities you care about, for yourself and for others. That means it is better to let a man die of a heart attack on the street rather than distract yourself from God by ringing for an ambulance. It means that parties and entertainment are sinful. It means that it is better to try and persuade somebody to think only of God than to take that person to the hospital for life-saving surgery. 

 

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MY LETTER

 

This is an excerpt of a letter I had published in The Freethinker in 2003.

 

I believe that the Christians are right that prayer develops their faith and makes them take it more seriously and that people fall away from the faith when they stop praying. That is why I think it is very important that prayer be exposed for the superstitious uncharitable activity that it really is. If people get ashamed of praying it will lead to a downslide in religious influence.

 

It is certain that human life is absolutely valuable. The biggest essential for human life is consciousness. Consciousness is more important then than free will or memory or virtue. This means that nothing ever justifies suffering for consciousness is hurt by suffering. Yes, we have to cause some suffering for a greater good but it would mean that a God would have no justification for making suffering possible for he has the power to prevent all suffering unlike us. For example, he should not have made viruses to cause agonising diseases. Prayer implies that God needs to make us suffer for a good reason which is therefore a total insult against the dignity of human beings.

 

Everything we get in life comes about as the result of a worldwide process for all events effect each other. When you are praying you intend that a lot of things will happen both bad and good in the world to make the forces of chance give you what you ask for. Is it not fanaticism and criminal then to ask for the gift of patience when so many terrible events and deaths had to happen before you could get it? Is it not fanaticism to ask (indirectly) a God you only believe in but do not know to kill people to give you what you want? You are trying to get people killed over a belief because that is all that God is. God makes life cheap when you can try to kill just for the sake of a belief when you need proof.

 

If prayer does any good it does it in spite of itself.

 

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CONCLUSION

 

Atheists have a right to see prayer as an evil activity. It conditions people to prefer God’s rights to human rights and to deepen the religious hold on the world with all the terrible disasters that brings. Prayer insults people.  The view of God that it proposes for us is vile and has resulted in the vile hypocrisy that is so common in people of faith.  One wonders if people who are unaffected by its poison really believe or only imagine that they believe.  Prayer implies God should let good people suffer for he has the power to save them and won’t. It can only lead to trouble. If people didn’t see the need for praying they wouldn’t see the need for believing in God so prayer must be exposed.

 

The benefits of prayer do not come from prayer at all which is why we should destroy people’s faith in prayer and have no regrets. The benefits are nothing compared to the damage that is done.

 

 

The WEB

 

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12608c.htm

Catholic Encyclopaedia. This discusses Quietism.

 

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