If nobody believed in superstition it would be unable to hurt anyone

 

THE MEDJUGORJE VIRGIN - PROMOTER OF DISOBEDIENCE
 
THE BISHOP OF MEDJUGORJE REFUTES VISIONS 2017

 

Former prefect of the Congregation for the Causes of Saints, José Cardinal Saraiva Martins has doubts about the reality of the apparitions of Mary in Medjugorje. He said, "It could be a trick of the devil".

 

Question: Eminence, in some of the apparitions, the Virgin is said to have asked the six "seers" of Medjugorje not to obey the prohibitions of their diocesan Bishop, such as, for example, to not speak publicly any more of the alleged "visions".

 

He replied, "The Madonna could not, in any case at all, be anti-hierarchical and incite disobedience, even if the Bishop of Mostar were wrong. This is another element on which to reflect."

 

Notably the bishop removed Fr Slavko but the Virgin told him to stay on - see the message of Sunday, February 3, 1985: "I wish for Father Slavko to stay here, for him to guide life, and to assemble all the news, so that when I leave there will be a complete image of everything that has happened here. I am also praying now for Slavko and for all those who work in this parish."  Slavko is dead and note how the message states that he is the one who will record all her doings in Medjugorje.  If you want to believe in the visions then you cannot believe in any that follow Slavko's cessation of recording keeping never mind his death.

 

Believers in Medjugorje lie that the bishop, Bishop Peric, was put out of the picture by Rome for his negative judgment of the visions. In fact, he gladly invited and asked for the current Commission to take away the pressure from him. He stated that. It is not true that there is a case of the Bishop versus Rome. The believers never try to back up their slanderous allegation with evidence or document it.

 

PRIVATE REVELATION: UNRAVELLING MEDJUGORJE by Carey Winters

 

This excellent site points out that when Satan speaks, in the experience of the Church, he states 99% of the truth that God has revealed and 1 % untruth because every little error helps his cause. In the Church’s experience, that is the way it seems to be which means nobody should be accepting the visions of Medjugorje for they tell some lies.

 

It says that by Church law that published details of the teaching of apparitions have to get an imprimatur from the Church. An imprimatur is a permission to publish a document on the grounds that nothing that scandalises faith or morals is in it. The Medjugorje Virgin has never worried about that. She has even recommended books of supposedly supernatural origin that the official Church did not like to be promoted. And books which had no imprimatur. So to authenticate Medjugorje would be to authenticate these supernatural claims too though there is no reason to take them seriously.

 

Any apparition or spirit that gets published without the green light from the Church is definitely not Catholic though it may say it is which only compounds its dishonesty.

 

Apparitions in Church dogma are only for creating fervour and not for teaching new dogma. That would eliminate the authenticity of Fatima as well as Medjugorje for they make predictions that are not in the Bible and predictions have nothing to do with fervour especially when they are frightening for the Bible says that perfect love casts out all fear. An apparition that was into increasing devotion would just give out spiritual advice.

 

The Church has always taught that apparitions have to be approached with extreme caution for the risk of illusion is great. And there is a risk of people preferring the apparition to the authority of the Church for faith is hard at the best of times. Leaving aside the fact that the apostles gave no evidence that they checked their own visions of Jesus with complete circumspection, it is clear that the Church is right that caution is an essential. The site states that the visionaries said that Mary told them that a baby does not receive a human soul until it is half-term and that Hitler and Pope Paul VI were good men and kidnapped and replaced by evil doubles. This false pope idea is definitely schismatic and denies the Catholic doctrine that the Church would not be built on a false rock.
 
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, November 1996

 

Regarding the circulation of texts of alleged private revelations, the Congregation states:

 

The Interpretation given by some individuals to a Decision approved by Paul VI on 14 October 1966 and promulgated on 15 November of that year, in virtue of which writings and messages resulting from alleged revelations could be freely circulated in the Church, is absolutely groundless. This decision actually referred to the "abolition of the Index of Forbidden Books" and determined that --- after the relevant censures were lifted --- the moral obligation still remained of not circulating or reading those writings which endanger faith and morals. It should be recalled however that with regard to the circulation of texts of alleged private revelations, canon 623 #1 of the current Code remains in force: "the Pastors of the Church have the … right to demand that writings to be published by the Christian faithful which touch upon faith or morals be submitted to their judgment".

Alleged supernatural revelations and writings concerning them are submitted in first instance to the judgment of the diocesan Bishop, and, in particular cases, to the judgment of the Episcopal Conference and the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith.

 

Any apparition that breaks this rule, and the Medjugorje Virgin commands that her messages be distributed as they are received, is not a Catholic apparition or concerned about Catholic orthodoxy. The bishops are the official Catholic teachers not apparitions. The vast majority of modern visions break the rule and so are themselves disobedient apparitions.

 

The Vatican has not clamped down hard on Medjugorje. This clearly implies tacit approval for the idea that as long as the Church gets publicity and converts and money thanks to an apparition it doesn't matter if the apparition is genuine or not. The false Knock visionaries such as Joe Coleman are allowed into the basilica despite turning it into a circus by pretending to have visions over the altar. It is no wonder that it is in fashion for a Catholic to claim an apparition today!

 

Cardinal Kuharic, Archbishop of Zagreb, said in 1984 that the Medjugorje apparition was not the real Mary because the real Mary would not have spoken about Bishop Zanic the way the apparition did. Zanic gave out several commands in 1986 none of which were obeyed including forbidding apparitions to be held in the Church and requesting the removal of an unauthorised statue of Mary in the apparition Church. The contempt for the bishop’s authority is clear from the fact that the Franciscans and the visionaries would do nothing he asked.

 

Romans 13 is the word of God according to infallible Catholic doctrine. It says that leaders must be obeyed for God allows them to have power even if they are bad. Fallible Medjugorje apparition comes along and encourages disobedience to the bishop. I need write no more!

 

THE BISHOP

 

Bishop Peric preached at St James Church, Medjugorje in 2006. He said,

 

“Therefore I responsibly call upon those who claim themselves to be “seers”, as well as those persons behind the “messages”, to demonstrate ecclesiastical obedience and to cease with these public manifestations and messages in this parish. In this fashion they shall show their necessary adherence to the Church, by neither placing private “apparitions” nor private sayings before the official position of the Church. Our faith is a serious and responsible matter. The Church is also a serious and responsible institution!”

 

The visionaries have continued to defy this request. They engage in acts of publicity for the visions.

 

Dodgy Revelations

 

March 18 2013, "Dear children! I call you to, with complete trust and joy, bless the name of the Lord and, day by day, to give Him thanks from the heart for His great love. My Son, through that love which He showed by the Cross, gave you the possibility to be forgiven for everything; so that you do not have to be ashamed or to hide, and out of fear not to open the door of your heart to my Son. To the contrary, my children, reconcile with the Heavenly Father so that you may be able to come to love yourselves as my Son loves you. When you come to love yourselves, you will also love others; in them you will see my Son and recognize the greatness of His love. Live in faith! Through me, my Son is preparing you for the works which He desires to do through you – works through which He desires to be glorified. Give Him thanks. Especially thank Him for the shepherds - for your intercessors in the reconciliation with the Heavenly Father. I am thanking you, my children. Thank you."

 

This contradicts the Bible which says you must think of others as better than you and sacrifice yourself for them. It denies that you need to love yourself in order to love others and claims you can simply love others. If you have to love yourself to love others, then clearly loving yourself must be the main commandment. But Jesus said loving God with total love is the greatest commandment. And love your neighbour as yourself supposes that you love yourself but it does not command it. The main commandments do not base love of neighbour and God on self-love at all - they reject it as a basis.

 

Message of May 2, 2013, “Dear children! Anew, I am calling you to love and not to judge. My Son, according to the will of the Heavenly Father, was among you to show you the way of salvation, to save you and not to judge you. If you desire to follow my Son, you will not judge but love like your Heavenly Father loves you. And when it is the most difficult for you, when you are falling under the weight of the cross do not despair, do not judge, instead remember that you are loved and praise the Heavenly Father because of his love. My children, do not deviate from the way on which I am leading you.
The Virgin herself judged the bishop and thereby got the visionaries to judge him as well. And Jesus did say he came to judge.

 

Medjugorje visionary Marija Pavlovic-Lunetti said on May 25 2013, on the air on Radio Maria. “Dear children! Today I call you to be strong and resolute in faith and prayer, until your prayers are so strong so as to open the Heart of my beloved Son Jesus. Pray little children, pray without ceasing until your heart opens to God’s love. I am with you and I intercede for all of you and I pray for your conversion. Thank you for having responded to my call.”

 

The Virgin here compare Jesus to a harsh judge who will not respond until enough prayers are said. Correct Catholic teaching is that all sincere prayer opens the heart of God which in a sense is always open. The Virgin thanks her children for responding to her messages as if she is parading their holiness.

 

The Virgin disobeys Catholic doctrine not just the bishop.

 

LIES ABOUT THE CURRENT COMMISSION OF INVESTIGATION

 

There is no evidence at all and no Vatican confirmation that the Vatican's Commission of Investigation of the Medjugorje claims was established due to a lack of faith in the bishop and his disapproval of the visionaries claims. The Vatican's reasons are unknown - and the commission has to be objective meaning it is open to agreeing with the bishop.

 

Medjugorje promoters claim that we should not say the apparitions are false or inauthentic until after the Vatican makes up its mind and pronounces on the matter. That is a tactic to try and silence critics. If they care about the Vatican they will say, "We hope the apparitions are authentic. We wish to present the case for authenticity. People may say the apparitions are true or false - debate is good." They however do speak of the apparitions as authentic.

 

Another lie told by supporters of Medjugorje is that the Church cannot decide if the visions are from God or not until the visions end. Many feel that the visionaries are dragging the whole thing out to stave off a final decision for they fear it will be a negative decision. It is claimed that the Church cannot proclaim apparitions authentic until it has seen all the evidence which means it has to wait until the visions end. But the Church can condemn ongoing apparitions. If apparitions show no sign of doctrinal or moral error, the Church cannot judge definitively unless the visions are over. That is in case the apparition is approved and it then starts making errors after approval. The Church can declare that ongoing visions show no sign yet of the supernatural. Or if the visions make doctrinal or moral errors, the Church does not need to wait until they end before condemning them.

 

The Church's approach makes sense. The Vatican Commission on Medjugorje while the apparitions are ongoing surely suggests the Commission is trying to be open-minded but does not expect this open-mindedness to lead to a positive decision. The apparitions if good and orthodox, cannot be approved until the end. So the Church making a decision now means a negative decision or a declaration that the visions are not supernatural.

 

The fruits of Medjugorje are really founded on lies. So how good are the fruits? How can they be lasting? The devil would love to get loads of converts for God if he can disappoint them and put them off religion.
 
APPENDIX - THE CDF ACTS
 
 
 
This was the second letter sent. The first was sent 27 February 2013 and was in all essentials the same. Yet Ivan Dragicevic was poised to travelling in the USA to have apparitions in spite of the 27 February 2013 letter. When the above letter was made public, he cancelled his intended trip in the USA. So Mary then was ready to disobey the Church by appearing! She encouraged disobedience. 
 
APPENDIX - THE BISHOPS OF TUSCANY
 
By the Bishops of Tuscany

 

During the "ad limina Apostolorum” visit of Bishops of the Region of Tuscany, from April 16-20, 2007 we had a meeting at the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith with the Secretary Monsignor Angelo Amato, who, while talking with us about the apparitions of Medjugorje, invited us to make public the homily of the Bishop of Mostar of June 15, 2006 given at St. James Parish in Medjugorje (see below), to make clear the religious phenomenon connected to this place.

 

According to this invitation we are making it known and above all we ask the priests to read it carefully and to draw the necessary consequences for the correct enlightenment of our faithful.

 

From the homily of His Excellency Msgr. Ratko Peric,

 

Bishop of Mostar, at Medjugorje, June 15, 2006,

on the occasion of the Solemnity of the Body and Blood of Christ.

 

III. –– “Apparitions”.

 

First of all , the fact that a person makes a humble Confession and receives Holy Communion in this parish church and that this person feels spiritually well due to God's forgiveness, each and every believer will recognize and give due praise to God for this, who is the source of all graces. At the same time, this person will take care not to proceed from this state of grace towards an illogical and inconsistent conclusion: “I made a Confession. I feel good and now I am converted. Therefore the Madonna is appearing in Medjugorje!” This type of believer and penitent is nonetheless obliged to go to confession, receive the other sacraments, observe the Commandments, whether any private apparitions are recognized or not.

 

Secondly , I would be an irresponsible minister of the Mystery of the Body and Blood of Christ, if today I were not to publicly advise, from this place and on this occasion as well, to all those interested throughout the world, that in this local Church of Mostar-Duvno, there exists something similar to a schism. A number of priests that have been expelled from the Franciscan OFM Order by the Generalate of the Order, due to their disobedience to the Holy Father, for years now have been forcefully keeping a few parish churches and rectories along with church inventory. They have not only been illegally active in these parishes, but they have also administered the sacraments profanely, while others invalidly, such as Confession and Confirmation, or they have assisted at invalid marriages. This type of anti-ecclesial behaviour is shocking to all of us. At the same time, this scandal of sacrilegiously administering the sacraments, especially of the Most Holy Body of Christ, must shock all the faithful as well who invalidly confess their sins to these priests and participate in sacrilegious liturgies. We pray to the Lord that this scandal and schism be uprooted as soon as possible from our midst.

 

Thirdly , I am truly grateful to the Holy Father the Pope, to John Paul II of blessed memory and to the reigning Benedict XVI, who have always respected the judgements of the bishops of Mostar-Duvno, of the previous as well as the current bishop, regarding the so-called “apparitions” and “messages” of Medjugorje, all the while recognizing the Holy Father's right to give a final decision on these events. The judgements of the bishops, after all the canonical investigations made thus far, can be summarized in these following points:

 

1 - Medjugorje is a catholic parish in which liturgical and pastoral activities are carried out, just as in all the other parishes of this diocese of Mostar-Duvno. No-one except the official Church authorities is then authorized to attribute the formal title of “shrine” to this place.

 

2 - On the basis of Church investigations of the events of Medjugorje, it cannot be determined that these events involve supernatural apparitions or revelations. This means that till now the Church has not accepted, neither as supernatural nor as Marian, any of the apparitions.

 

3 - Priests who canonically administer this parish of Medjugorje or those who come as visitors, are not authorised to express their private views contrary to the official position of the Church on the so-called “apparitions” and “messages”, during celebrations of the sacraments, neither during other common acts of piety, nor in the Catholic media.

 

4 - The Catholic faithful are not only free from any obligation to believe in the authenticity of the “apparitions” bu3t they must also know that church pilgrimages are not allowed, whether official or private, individual or group, or from other parishes, if they presuppose the authenticity of the “apparitions” or if by undertaking them attempt to certify these “apparitions”.

 

5 - As the local Bishop, I maintain that regarding the events of Medjugorje, on the basis of the investigations and experience gained thus far, throughout these last 25 years, the Church has not confirmed a single “apparition” as authentically being the Madonna. The fact that during these 25 years there has been talk of tens of thousands of “apparitions” does not contribute any authenticity to these events, which according to the words of our current Pope, who I encountered during an audience on 24 February this year, commented that at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith they always questioned how all these “apparitions” could be considered authentic for the Catholic faithful. They particularly do not seem to be authentic when it is known beforehand that these so-called “apparitions” will occur:

 

To one of the “seers” on the 18th of March every year, but along with this she will also receive an “apparition” on the 2 nd of each month, with “messages” which you can expect, according to the established procedures;
 
The second will receive an apparition on every day of the year, and if this were not enough, an added special “apparition” on the 25 th of each month along with a type of press release, which once again you can foresee and expect;
 
The third will receive an “apparition” on the 25th of December, on Christmas day, along with a message similar to the ones already mentioned;
 
The fourth will receive an “apparition” on the 8th of September every year along with a specific message;
 
The remaining two will receive the same, every day along with “messages” that can be anticipated since they are variations on the same theme. This fact and the flood of so-called apparitions, messages, secrets and signs, do not strengthen the faith, but rather further convince us that in all of this there is nothing neither authentic nor established as truthful.

 

Therefore I responsibly call upon those who claim themselves to be “seers”, as well as those persons behind the “messages”, to demonstrate ecclesiastical obedience and to cease with these public manifestations and messages in this parish. In this fashion they shall show their necessary adherence to the Church, by neither placing private “apparitions” nor private sayings before the official position of the Church. Our faith is a serious and responsible matter. The Church is also a serious and responsible institution!

 

Through the intercession of the Blessed Virgin Mary, the greatest possessor of the gifts of the Holy Spirit, who through the same Holy Spirit conceived in her body and gave birth to the Second person of the Trinity, Jesus Christ, who gives us his Most Holy Body and Blood for eternal life, may He - who is the Way, the Truth and the Life –– help us so that the truth of the Blessed Virgin, his Mother and Mother of the Church, Seat of Wisdom and Mirror of Justice, may shine forth in brightness in this parish and diocese, without even a hint of incredibility, yet all in accord with the constant teachings and practice of the Church. Amen.
 
APPENDIX - PULJIC OF SARAJEVO
 
Cardinal Vinko Puljic of Sarajevo, speaking at the Synod of Bishops, has complained that the reported apparitions of Medjugorje are becoming a source of division in the Church. Cardinal Puljic spoke on the general theme of how bishops should be involved in [italic]"overcoming the divisions existing in the Church and in today's world."

(CWNews.com, 10 October 2001) - He argued: "Europe can no longer be divided into Eastern and Western Europe. The world cannot remain divided between North and South."

Then, turning his attention to his own land of Bosnia-Herzegovina, the cardinal said that the unity of the Church is threatened by the disobedience of the Franciscan monks serving at Medjurgorje, who "impose their own points of view" with the aid of "pseudo-charisms."[italic] Although the local bishop has never officially rendered a verdict on the authenticity of the reported Marian apparitions at Medjugorje, the hierarchy has generally shown signs of skepticism, and cautioned against excessive enthusiasm. This stance has frequently produced conflicts with the Franciscan pastors who have energetically promoted visits and devotion to the Medjugorje site.
 
SISTER EMMANUEL

Sister Emmanuel is probably Medjugorje's best promoter.

 

Some Medjugorje supporters speak of how the Vatican approved the order The Community of the Beatitudes in 2002. They describe it as Sister Emmanuel's community implying that this approval means approval of her. She is not recognised as a real nun by her diocese. And the Community is regarded as a cult by competent authorities and there has been scandals involving prolific sexual abuse. A brother admitted to having abused 50 children. There is an abnormally high rate of teen suicides. The founder was guilty of sexual exploitation of the members. Emmanuel had to have known about all this. She has made no comment on any of it and pro-Medjugorje websites ignore the scandals.