IRACLES ARE HOAXES
Lucia, Francisco and Jacinta were the visionaries of Our Lady of Fatima. These three children claimed they saw Mary on a number of occasions in 1917. Francisco and Jacinta died.
Lucia became a nun
in 1921.
She didn’t see Mary again until 1925 at
Pontevedra.
The Virgin said to Sister Lucia: “I promise to assist at the hour of death,
with the graces necessary for salvation, all those who, on the first Saturday
of 5 consecutive months, shall confess, receive Holy Communion, recite 5
decades of the Rosary, and keep me company for 15 minutes, while meditating
on the 15 mysteries of the Rosary, with the intention of making reparation to
me” (inside cover, The Rosary and the Crisis of Faith).
Too many errors
here! The fact that it is promised
only to those who practice this devotion implies she is not going to help
anybody else. Why make the promise if she
would help anyway? Catholics have all
prayed, “Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of
our death. Amen.” If Mary loves her son she will help us to
love him when we are dying regardless of the five first Saturdays. Lucia really insulted Mary. Perhaps in revenge for the fact that Mary
would not appear to her and never did.
Catholics say the promise will not stand for people who obey the
conditions but hope to be able to sin all they want in future because Heaven
is guaranteed. So the sin that makes
the promise ineffectual for you is mortal sin. They can commit all the venial sins they
wish for these do not finish the friendship with God. Some of these venial sins will be sins like
drunkenness and sex which are venial when you get too carried away. God cannot complain for we will all commit
venial sins anyway. If we don’t there
is not need for the promise. Mary is
encouraging venial sin which the Devil would do for he likes sin and venial
sin leads to mortal sin – the final break.
Either Lucia made her vision up or the Devil appeared to her. Either way we cannot be impressed by her
for if she thought the Devil’s message was God’s then how good a person is
she really?
Just like the vast majority of very devout
Christians have never read the Bible for themselves, so most Catholics are
unfamiliar with, have forgotten or don’t understand Catholic dogma. They will take the Virgin to be
guaranteeing them salvation for doing the five first Saturdays. The revelation is just asking for trouble.
Many critics have held that the five first
Saturdays is just a cynical scheme for Lucia to become as popular a saint as
St Margaret Mary who said the Sacred Heart of Jesus told her to announce
similar benefits for those who practiced the nine first Fridays. It is imitation. Imitation has been the reason the Church
rejected many alleged apparitions in the past. It is a sign of faking and lying.
Wouldn’t it be a
better idea to prescribe three slow Hail Marys a day with meditation on the
mysteries of the Rosary in the hope of making reparation? It would mean more meditation and
reparation and sincerity. It is
supposed to be important to keep in touch with God every day. The silliness of the Virgin’s plea makes it
self-refuting. Is it fair of her to
suggest that anybody who finds they have to go to confession outside one of
the Saturdays breaks the devotion?
Lucia had another
visit from Mary in 1929 at
Jesus appeared to
her in 1931. He disclosed that he
would not let Mary triumph over the world and flood with truth and peace
until
Jesus told Lucia
years later that when the consecration would be done it would be too
late. Mary evidently thought that the
pope would listen to her. What makes
it more stupid is that the Church had not recognised
In a vision in
1943, Jesus told Lucia that the sacrifice and penance he wants from everybody
now is keeping his laws (The Rosary and the Crisis of Faith, inside
cover). Penance is unpleasant and hard
but the Bible Jesus’ burden is gentle and his yoke is light (Matthew
In 1952 the Virgin
appeared to Lucia to tell her that the pope had not consecrated
Some have linked
the weeping Virgin statue of
None of the later
visions were authenticated by the Church.
It seems absurd to have a visionary who has had some authentic visions
and then less authentic ones.
None of the consecrations of
Lucia says the 1984 one carried out by John
Paul II did (page 84-85, What Happened at
John Vennari in an
article entitled, Where is the Conversion of
Jesus stated
clearly in the Sermon on the Mount that it is the fruits of the false prophets
that you shall know them. So then
Fatima and the subsequent visions by encouraging opposition to abortion by
its approval for the doctrine that Mary was preserved from Original Sin at
her conception in her mothers’ womb has caused a lot of trouble. One example being the shooting of abortion
doctors by pro-life people who are not convinced by that argument that it is
wrong to kill one doctor to save thousands of unborn children. It is a worthless argument for it is
self-evidently rubbish. The human
being does not begin at conception therefore abortion at the early stages is
not wrong. Even if the dogma of the
Immaculate or Sinless Conception did not imply this, most people think it did
therefore Satan could play on that. He
does not need to put heresy into the messages of any apparition of Jesus or
Mary or whoever that he is engineering at all which means that the Church is
talking nonsense when it says a true apparition from God can be known as
God’s work when it agrees with the Church in all matters for God speaks
through the Church and will not contradict himself in a miracle or
apparition. When that is the case it
is only nonsense for God to perform apparition miracles for they don’t make
us any the wiser. Their inability to
capture trust only makes it a waste of time to perform them and even makes
them dangerous and forbidden. It is a
sin for a visionary to attend more than one apparition for the first one
would be spontaneous and not her or his fault but she or he has a say if she
or he is going to look at any more visions.
If the visionaries were really open to the light of the Holy Spirit
they would know these things but they act as if they do not. When the visionaries have such bad fruits
among themselves then it is obvious that whatever is sending them visions it
is not God. This means that we should
believe in no apparitions allegedly from Heaven at all. That goes for Jesus’ appearances in which
he testified to his resurrection as well.
In the New
Catholic Encyclopaedia’s entry, FATIMA, we learn that the
patriarch of
The commission was
started in 1922 when Jacinta and Francisco were dead leaving only Lucia. It was so easy for her then to get it to go
her way. And she did keep things from
it and yet she accepted their approval of her visions which was dishonest for
they hadn’t heard the whole story. A
child that deceives will only get worse as she or he grows up.
The entry says
that the visions of Lucia subsequent to Fatima were not tested by the Church
like the
God in the Bible
(Deuteronomy 18) forbids this selectiveness.
He said there that if a prophet is always right and predicts the
future right then his revelations are to be entirely thrown out if he makes
one false prediction or makes an error.
You can get a bunch of experts who will
come up with a verdict after a commission and you can set up another with a
different selection and the verdict will be the opposite. And even if their verdict is the same the
reasons could be very different. In
that case neither commission is of any help for it is vital that the same
reasons and perceptions be accepted and point to the same result. I mean two experts saying essiac cures
cancer means nothing if one of them is convinced by testimonies of cancer
patients who were cured and the other thinks there is psychic power in essiac
and that is evidence enough that cancer cures must happen. The reasons are more important than the
verdict for there can be no proper verdict without them. A person who believes you are good because
they saw it in your astrology chart may be right that you are good but they
only think it because of a bad reason.
It is not you they honour but their perception of you that they get
from astrology. That is not honouring
the truth. A truth believed for the
wrong reason is not a healthy or good truth.
It might as well be a lie.
Lucia calls us to devote ourselves to Our
Lady of the Rosary or Our Lady of Fatima.
But all we end up doing is believing experts which is so silly. What makes it worse is that it is experts
who have not published their deliberations fully and accessibly for us to
peruse. This is why all authenticated
apparitions of the Catholic Church should not be taken seriously.
The entry tells us
that Lucia contradicted what other trustworthy people said in things which
were of secondary importance. We are
informed that she did this a number of times.
If she was unintelligent or a liar she could not have been a true visionary
of the Blessed Virgin who has the power to make a person give her message
reliably and who would choose the right person.
The apparitions
Lucia had after Fatima are dubious.
BIBLE QUOTATIONS FROM:
The Amplified
Bible
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What Happened at
THE WEB
An Agnostic Looks
at
http://www.portcult.com/index.fat.htm
Where is the
Conversion of Russia? John Vennari
www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2002Mar/mar22fat.htm